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Grayson Center Pasadena 1,000,000 steps for OCD Walk

EVENT DATE: JUN 02, 2018
Join us for the our first Pasadena 1 Million Steps 4 OCD Walk, hosted by The Grayson LA Treatment Center for Anxiety & OCD to benefit  the International OCD Foundation (IOCDF)!  This is part of the IOCDF’s national week of walks to raise funds.  If you can join us, please register yourself at OCD Walk (click link).  It’s free to join us, but if you walk with us and raise $25 in your name by May 7th, you will receive an official OCD Walk t-shirt.  If you can’t join us, please make a donation at OCD Walk (click link).

Where: Memorial Park, Pasadena  When: Saturday, June 2nd, 2018
Check-in: 9:00 am
Opening Remarks: 9:30 am
Walk End: 12:00 pm

Questions? Contact
Jonathan Grayson at jbg1717@gmail.com

ADAA Webinar: OCD & Strategic Pressure: Working with Treatment Resistant Children & Adult Children Living at Home

September 22, 2017 | 12 noon – 1:00 pm ET
OCD & Strategic Pressure: Working with Treatment Resistant Children & Adult Children Living @Home

Webinar Description:

As therapists we have all experienced the painful difficulty of seeing sufferers in extreme distress and having difficulty functioning, who are refusing to follow through with treatment at any level. When confronted with a treatment refusing child, the stakes seem even higher because we know that with each passing year of dysfunction, the odds that child will recover begin to decrease. Sending the treatment refusing child to an intensive OCD inpatient program may seem like a viable solution, but such programs can be defeated by the treatment refusing child, because legally, they can’t force anyone to do treatment. We consider Strategic Pressure to be the treatment of last resort, when all else has failed.

Strategic Pressure is a treatment approach that can be used by therapists to work with the parents of treatment refusing children to pressure them into treatment. It takes into account the difficulty the parents have had with enabling and focuses as much upon helping them to gradually change their behaviors as much as the child’s. It can be used for any dependent child living at home, whether 4 or 36.

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The Southern California Affiliate of the IOCDF Keynote Addresses/2nd Annual Conference

Click here to watch the Southern California OCD Affiliate’s 2nd annual conference 2 keynote addresses. The first is mine and discusses uncertainty and a number of primary mental obsessions. The second if Ethan Smith, a comedian, actor, spokesperson for the International OCD Foundation and generally a great guy.

OCD Sufferer’s Panel accompanying my OCD Awareness Week presentation

This is from a an OCD Awareness Week Event. This is the panel that followed my presentation, “The ABCs of Overcoming OCD.” The speakers, Liz McInvale, Ethan Smith and Jeff Bell humble me with their life stories and their bravery. I hope I could do as well as them if I were in their circumstances.  Click here to see their panel.

The ABC’s of OCD – an introduction to OCD treatment

This is from a livestreamed OCD Awareness Week Event. Click here to watch  my presentation of “The ABCs of Overcoming OCD.” My thanks to Liz McInvale, Ethan Smith, Jeff Bell and Barbara Van Oppen for putting this together and for there wonderful presentations. You can check out their presentation which is also shared on this site.

OCD Stories interview with me

Click on this link, OCD Stories,  to watch a podcast interview with me on The OCDStories – a site dedicated to sharing stories of those with OCD and information from professionals.

Free OCD Speakers Series & USC Genetic Study Event

WHEN:
Sunday March 13 2016,  10:30am – 4:00pm (if you have OCD or an OCD related disorder ( hoarding, skin picking, hairpulling, body dysmorphic disorder, you may be eligible to participate! Study enrollment opens at 10:30)

WHERE:
Courtyard Marriott Pasadena
180 N Fair Oaks Avenue, Pasadena, CA
(Free parking on the street)

RSVP:
By March 7, 2016 to vannoppe@usc.edu

* Light refreshments will be provided

Presentations:

11:00am-12:15pm
Jonathan Grayson, PhD, The Grayson LA Treatment Center for Anxiety and OCD
“The ABC’s of OCD: Understanding OCD and its Treatment”

1:00 pm-1:45 pm:
Barbara Van Noppen, PhD, University of Southern California
“The Role of Family in OCD”

1:45pm-2:30pm:
Chris Trondsen, The Gateway Institute
“Life Beyond OCD”

2:30pm-3:30pm:
Question and Answer Panel

10:30am-4:00pm:
**Study Enrollment all day (compensation will be provided)

* Research funded by the National Institute of Mental Health.
   Approved by USC HS-IRB 10-00299.

OCD and Hope

OCD can be devastating, but there is treatment that works.  When reading comments from other readers that may sound hopeless, please search through the thread – it is likely that earlier on I did discuss some of what can be done for that manifestation of OCD.  I’ve been working with OCD since 1978 (I know, I’m ancient) and I haven’t seen a manifestation/presentation that can’t be treated successfully.  At the same time, I have seen many people suffer needlessly from bad treatment.  If you’re seeing a therapist and that therapist doesn’t mention exposure and response prevention as a part of treatment, you are probably in the wrong office.  The updated edition of my book (Freedom From OCD) covers many different OCD presentations.  If yours isn’t in it, it doesn’t mean you are untreatable, so there is no reason to give up hope.  A good place to find  a therapist is the Find-A-Therapist section of the International OCD Foundation‘s website and you should look for someone who is BTTI faculty or a BTTI graduate.  Take care all and don’t lose hope.

The Cruelest Obsession: Obsessing about Obsessing

From: OCD Newsletter.  2004, 18, Issue 4.
by Jonathan Grayson, Ph.D.

From: OCD Newsletter, 2004, 18, Issue 4 – by Jonathan Grayson

If you have OCD, you know the torture of constantly trying to avoid a potential disaster or feared consequence, whether it be harm to you or your family, going crazy, being evil, forgetting something – the list is as infinite as human imagination.  Most of the time, the feared consequences don’t occur  – your family doesn’t contract AIDS, you don’t turn into a serial killer, you don’t molest your children.  For obsessing about obsessing the fear is the obsessions will never end and as a result life will be horrible because.  And it’s true, the obsessing is constant and life is horrible.

Now many of you without this obsession may feel this describes you – you fear you are doomed to a life of endless obsessing and misery.  What you are recognizing is that this fear is a part of almost all obsessions.  However, in most cases it is a secondary fear; that is, you have primary obsession like contamination issues with a primary feared consequence of contracting AIDS.  Treatment of the primary fear usually makes attention to the fear of endless obsessing unnecessary.

So what does obsessing about obsessing look like.  In its most common form, the sufferer is having neutral obsessions, in which something feels “stuck” in your mind such as: noticing your breathing, a song, or a picture.  These are called neutral, because there is nothing about the stimuli that is dangerous, upsetting or even unlucky.  The entire problem is simply feeling you cannot get them out of your mind.  Related to this is pure obsessing about obsessing: constantly thinking and obsessing about how your life will be ruined by your obsessing with little other content.  Some of you may have rituals or avoidances, but the main ritual, the wishing ritual, is usually ignored in treatment.  I’ll come back to this.

A particularly insidious form of obsessing about obsessing occurs when another form of OCD changes into this.  Take the case of Bill who was discussed in my book.  Bill had numerous checking rituals with seemingly obvious disasters.  For example, whenever he used the microwave oven, he would be plagued by images of fire that wouldn’t about without checking rituals.  At bedtime to avoid thoughts of intruders breaking into his house he went through extensive door locking and checking rituals.  His concerns and treatment appear to be obvious: exposures focusing upon the risk of fire for microwave and risk of his house being broken into for the front door.  Exposures like this were done by his therapist, but Bill’s anxiety continued relentlessly.

The problem was focus of the exposures.  Although there had been a point in time when the focus of these exposures had been Bill’s feared consequences, this was no longer true.  His main feared consequence was that the obsessions would continue forever.  So while his therapist was trying to treat his fear of disaster, Bill kept trying to make the obsessions stop.  For Bill, treatment became another one of his rituals to try to stop obsessing.  The purpose of his old rituals was no longer to prevent disaster, but to stop obsessing.  Thus whenever he was confronted by an obsession, he would obsess about what method he should use to stop obsessing: his old rituals or exposure.

But isn’t the purpose of treatment to stop obsessions?  No!  Then does that mean you are doomed to live with constant painful obsessions?  Thankfully, the answer is also no.  In the remainder of this paper, I’d like to discuss: 1) the common mistakes therapists make in treating obsessing about obsessing; 2) the wishing ritual; and finally, 3) what you can do about it.

The first mistake therapists and sufferers make is illustrated by the case of Bill, not recognizing the feared consequence, which results on a treatment that focuses on the wrong symptoms.

The second mistake is seen in the case of neutral obsessions.  The therapist will use downward arrow, a cognitive technique, to discover what your core fear is.  They are trying to find out how life will be horrible if you keep obsessing.  Downward arrow can be very useful, but the problem is they go to far, because the fail to recognize that the emotional pain of obsessing is the worst consequence.  The therapist’s attempts to focus upon his/her perception of the “real” consequences are misguided.  Treatment won’t be effective because it fails to address both the wishing ritual and your worst fears.

The wishing ritual is not a straightforward ritual; its core is denial, so to understand the wishing ritual I need to explain denial.  Undoubtedly, you’ve heard psychologists talk about denial, but have you ever wondered exactly what it is.  For example, what does it mean to say someone is in denial after the death of a loved one.  Simply defined, denial is comparing reality to fantasy.   In the case of death, denial is not a delusional fantasy of believing that the dead are alive; it is comparing the present with how much better life would be if the deceased were still alive.  Life might be better if your loved one were still alive.  On the other hand, perhaps something more terrible might have happened in the future.  Of course, something more terrible in the future isn’t part of the fantasy comparison.  In comparisons between real life and fantasy, fantasy always wins, because you don’t include problems in fantasies.

When we compare reality with fantasy, we destroy and demean the moment.  For example, imagine yourself with your lover at a beach by a small lake at sunset.  And suppose you think to yourself: if we were rich, we could be at a fabulous Caribbean resort by the ocean, watching a brilliant sunset with waiters bringing tropical drinks at the snap of our fingers.  It’s a nice thought, but if you allow yourself to be consumed by such fantasy wishes, the beauty of your very real lakeside sunset is now tarnished.

We see other instances of denial in life.  A woman in a bad relationship may know all her lover’s faults, but will say she can’t leave him because she loves him.  She’ll describe how wonderful he can be at times, and wishes he were that way all of the time.  What she is really saying is that she loves this man 20% of the time and wishes the other 80% would change.  If he changed though, he would be someone else.  Does she, in fact, love him?  I would suggest she doesn’t.  Or to be more accurate, she does love 20% of him and what she needs to do is find someone with more of the qualities she loves and less she wants to change.  Perhaps no one will be perfect, but she could do better than 20%.

But why would any of us engage in denial?  Rituals are supposed to provide some kind of relief, even if it only for a few seconds.  The relief provided by denial and the wishing ritual help us to avoid the loss that acceptance brings.

For the woman in a bad relationship acceptance of her true feelings for her lover would involve loss.  Her friends will tell her it is great she finally left him. But what about her fantasy relationship, the one in which she clung to 20% wishing it was more?  With her fantasy lover gone, she has nothing but emptiness.

Imagine a gambler who has stopped gambling.  Everyone around him congratulates him.  Finally, he will get out of debt.  His family life will come back together.  He won’t lose his house.  It is a time of triumph. But he is sad.  Why?  Because he will never be rich.  He’ll spend the rest of his life being just like everyone else.  Again, this is his fantasy, because in reality he probably never was going to be rich.

Even in mourning, denial can feel better in the short run than acceptance.  You can feel this difference in the words of denial versus acceptance.  In denial, a person says, “Life would be better if my wife were still here.”  In acceptance this becomes, “My wife is gone.”  The sadness of the denial statement doesn’t come close to the stark reality of moving towards acceptance.  Mourning is the process of moving from fantasy to acceptance.  You may always miss your loved one, but you can also relearn to enjoy life in the present.  Mourning is not easy to go through, but to avoid the pain of mourning is to be trapped in a fantasy you can never have.  Just like the gambler.  Just like the lover.  And, perhaps, just like you with your OCD.

For obsessing about obsessing the wishing ritual involves you imagining how much better life would be if you didn’t obsess – your marriage and your work performance would improve, you wouldn’t be so easy to upset, you would enjoy life more and so on.  These may have some truth to them, but they may not.  You may have unrecognized relationship difficulties that need attention above and beyond your obsessing.  Maybe your boss is difficult and you wouldn’t be any more tolerant if your OCD was under control.  Life would be better if your OCD was under control, but probably not as good as your fantasy.

Having your OCD under control does not mean that the thought is gone.  The reason for this is that for any thought will become an obsession if you want to know something about that thought (e.g., does this make me evil?) or if you want to be sure it won’t stay forever.  After all, who wants to have an upsetting thought stuck in their mind forever?  No one, but the goal of treatment is learning have the thought in your mind without caring about it.  Note I said learning, if it were as simple as a decision, you would be cured after reading this article.  Learning is a process that takes time.

Imagine that you have lost a loved one and that it is three weeks later.  You are back at work.  Will thoughts of your loss pop into your mind?  Yes.  Will these thoughts be upsetting and interfere with your concentration?  Yes.  If this happened in a movie theater, would this interfere with enjoying the movie?  Yes, but your enjoyment wouldn’t necessarily be zero.  Would the thought stay for the entire movie?  Maybe.  Would you call thinking about this death only three weeks later an obsession?  No.  The difference isn’t that the death is real, but that you don’t say to yourself I must not think about my loss.

Imagine having a headache.  It hurts and it interferes with functioning and enjoying life.  However, most of you can function with a headache.  While you are suffering from one, you enjoyment of life is interfered with, but it isn’t zero.  Sometimes while you are suffering from the headache, you may even have some time in which you don’t notice it.

Treating obsessing about obsessing or neutral obsession is not a matter of getting rid of the thoughts or images.  It is getting to the point where you don’t care whether or not they are present.  You might recognize that this is the goal of treatment for all primary obsessions.  Exposure and response prevention is the path you will take to achieve your goal.  As with any treatment, it will need to be tailored to you.

The exposure part is simple, you want to make sure that there is no way to get the thought/image out of your mind.  In your environment put as many visual cue reminders that you can.  At any office supply store, you can find ¼ inch red dots, that you can paste in places you are sure to see them, (e.g., the corner of your computer screen, the center of your watch, the bathroom mirror).  If someone sees one on your watch, you can simply say its to help you remember something.  In addition, you can make a cassette tape or burn a CD, that says a single word every one to three minutes.  You should listen to this tape as much as possible.  I mean this literally.  Wear headphones anyplace where it isn’t inappropriate.  You may not be able to listen at work, but you can while shopping, watching TV or a movie, spending time with your family or going to sleep.  You can make the volume low enough so it won’t interfere with these activities.  The more inescapable you can make this the better.

You may feel this isn’t necessary, because your obsession is always there, but this isn’t true.  Sometimes it leaves, even if only for a few minutes.  Then when it reappears, your immediate thought is: “Oh no, there it is again, I can’t believe it…”  Without meaning to, you are off and running into your wishing it was gone.  And just like it is hard for an alcoholic to stop once s/he has started, so too is it hard for you to stop once started.  With the one word script constantly playing, the wishing is partially relieved, because as long as it is playing you don’t wish the thought away, because you know it is impossible while the script is playing.  In addition, you will also be unable to forget why it is playing: that you want to get better by learning to tolerate the thought.

The response prevention is a more complicated, because your rituals ares mental and automatic.  However, the initial goal is to try to have these thoughts in the back of your mind rather than the center.  The first thought to work on is how much better you would feel right now if you weren’t obsessing.  Again, as a result of the wishing ritual, you are taking whatever enjoyment you might be having and making it worse.  Consider the following two examples.

First, example imagine you are in a movie theater and you can hear the soundtrack from the movie in the theater next to you.  You have two choices.  You can accept (the opposite of denial) that you will only get 50 to 70% of the pleasure that you were expecting or you can spend the entire movie focusing on the other sound track and wishing you couldn’t hear it – your pleasure will be reduced to 20 to 30%.  Or perhaps you will leave the movie and get 0%.  By accepting reality, I will not have a perfect time, but I will have a better time than wishing would allow.

Now imagine you’ve lost your arm.  Obviously life would be better with two arms and it wouldn’t be possible to never miss your arm.  However, which life goal makes the most sense: 1) learning to have the best one-armed life possible or 2) comparing every moment and activity to how much better it would be if I had two arms – something that is never going to happen?

Acceptance does involve loss, but it allows us to live in and appreciate the present.  At this moment, with this form of OCD, enjoying things the way you feel you should is not a possibility.  If it were, your OCD problem would be insignificant.  So part of response prevention involves focusing on whatever little enjoyment is present and learning to enjoy the 20 to 40% that can still get through despite your obsessing.  This means not avoiding any activities, because your obsessing will interfere with them.  In addition, you need to schedule and spend time reminding yourself that you are trying to accept whatever you can get in the present.  You can change your one word script recording, so that the one word it repeats every 1 to 3 minutes is “enjoy.”  This way it simultaneously reminds you of your problem and your goal.

This highlights something else you will have to accept.  Treatment will take time.  The amount of pleasure I’m asking you to appreciate is not the endpoint of treatment.  It is the beginning, but if you are unwilling to take the first step, then don’t expect to reach your goal.

As I earlier stated, overcoming obsessing about obsessing will make life better, but it will not make all other problems vanish.  Examine your other problems to see in what ways they may be upsetting above and beyond your obsessions.  Anything you can discover probably needs attention and you shouldn’t assume that overcoming your obsessing means that these other problems will disappear or won’t need attention.  In treatment our assumption is only what is treated gets better.  If I only work on your OCD, then that is all that improve.

Obviously, there is more to working on obsessing about obsessing than can be covered in a short paper.  It is impossible to work on any problem if you don’t understand the problem or the goals of treatment.  Hopefully I’ve helped you to understand this problem and what the goals of treatment are.   Ultimately, overcoming the wishing ritual means moving from denial to acceptance, from fantasy to reality.  Reality may not be as pretty as fantasy, but it is far better than the misery of wishing.  The ultimate goal of treatment is to be able to enjoy the present for what it is.  After all, the only time I can enjoy my family is when I’m with them.  When I’m at work, they are a memory of times past and a hope they’ll be there for the future.  By working on your OCD, you too will find that you can live in and enjoy your world as it is.

No one should do exposure and response prevention!

Exposure and response prevention (ERP) is the first line treatment for OCD, but no one should do it!  I do believe that any sufferer with OCD who would like to be free of this problem would be well advised to choose ERP for treatment.  Many sufferers of OCD find their decisions and actions guided by shoulds, by what is right and wrong.  They would say that this is being responsible.  Wrong. Responsibility is not a matter of what you should do.  Responsibility is taking the steps to accomplish the things you want to do.  The responsibility of shoulds involves some authority shaking a finger at you demanding you to be good or to do the right thing or else.  This is neither thoughtful nor helpful.  When we are working with an individual, we emphasize that we don’t want them following the treatment we are proposing simply because we are experts who are supposed to know, we would like them to follow our treatment if we have convinced them that this is the best way.

The responsibility of taking the steps to accomplish what you want puts the power in your hands.  With regard to OCD, this makes the decision to do ERP a matter of thoughtfully looking at what treatments and evidence for them is available.  However, it does impose an additional requirement.  It makes you responsible for possible outcomes.  I often ask someone, can an individual be a responsible criminal and if so how?  Many want to say no, because they confuse responsibility with right and wrong.  Others will say yes, but if I ask how, they suggest by carefully planning their crimes.  This would be part of it; however, in making a choice, I also need to consider the possibilities of what might happen.  I used to work with drug addicts on probation and parole and I ran into responsible and irresponsible criminals.  The responsible felons were those who had accepted the possibility of landing in jail, since most of the people they knew eventually were caught.  They may not have liked prison, some went straight following their incarceration, but they accepted the consequence.  The irresponsible felons complained about how unfair it was that they were in prison and why the system should be changed and so on.  All of that might be true, but it was true, that regardless of what they feel, the law was the law and they apparently weren’t willing to accept prison as a real possibility.   A similar example would be someone who would like to become an actor.  It is fine to hope to become a Hollywood star, but if failure isn’t acceptable, then acting makes no sense to try, since this is the most likely outcome.  If on the other hand, you want to devote a number of years trying before moving on, or if you are willing to accept not getting further than community theater, then attempting to go into acting is responsible.

Anyone suffering from a problem would wish the problem to be gone quickly.  But at this moment in time, ERP is the most researched treatment and the only one that all of the experts and professional organizations (both the American Psychiatric Assoc and the American Psychological Assoc recommend ERP as the first line treatment for OCD as well as the International OCD Foundation).  The possible feared consequences that most sufferers face are horrible, but consider a few facts.  First, what have you lost to OCD and I don’t mean in general, but in detail, humiliating experiences, being late for important events, lost relationships and so on.  Second, how have you hurt your loved ones – forcing them to do rituals, endlessly asking for reassurance, being angry at them for not giving in.  If you have children, would you do anything for them?  If you say yes, and I don’t mean to be offensive, but you are lying to yourself.  You put your OCD fears in front of their welfare.  You run the risk of having children who won’t respect you or who will live in fear of the world.  There is a 1 in 4 chance your children may have OCD and your behavior teaches them that OCD is something to cope with or not.

And there is a third reason.  At this point your OCD steals everything from your life and hurts your loved ones.  Even if you were to leave them, they would just be hurt more by your abandonment.  And you are willing to have all this happen because of a possibility of something bad happening.  Whatever decision you make there is risk. However, the saddest thing about your rituals is that they don’t work.  You never get the safety or reassurance you wish for.  And if you described your rituals to me, I would be able to find flaws – reasons you are still at risk.  So the saddest thing about your rituals is that for all of your pain and efforts, you never get the prize, all of your fears may happen anyway.

I have written elsewhere that the only thing we have is the present.  Those you love are only there when you are with them.  So when you are alone, there are past good memories and hopes for a future, but that isn’t now.  And with your OCD, you don’t even have the present, because you are trapped in OCD land.  Responsibility is taking the actions to achieve what you want and accepting the consequences.  To give into your rituals is to decide to have a difficult life, hurt the ones you love and have not guarantee that what you want to avoid will be avoided.  To fight OCD is to want to learn to live in the moment and enjoy it and to learn to cope with possible risks.  Working on your OCD helps you and those you love.  Not working on it hurts everyone.  Running away hurts everyone.  If you really would do anything for those you love, be responsible and take the steps to achieve your goals.